Hello all I thought I should offer my experience in using a tuning box as they come up in conversation a lot and people should get any info they can on them. So, I have a 2010 insignia sports tourer 2.0 ECOflex 160, I got myself a DTUK Crd2+ tuning box which gave me about 200 to 210 hp as well as 460nm of torque so ya loads of fun! And also an up to 20% fuel economy increase so good all around, I loved it so much and I was running it for about a month. Then the trouble started, I started getting a service vehicle soon message on start up and my dpf regenerations became more frequent and my god did it stink more then usual!, This was happening about every 100 or so miles, so the inevitable happened and I do take a few long trips a week to blow all the crud out, my car went into limp mode and the dpf blocked, took to a dealer and they unclogged it, I then took my tuning box off and I’m away again happy with the car stock, apart from my air filter I had my car a long while before this and had no problems, I am also getting no problems now without a tuning box again. So I suppose what I’m trying to say is this is my experience with them, I know other people get along fine with them I’m sure, but is it worth the risk? A fine tuned remap rolling road and all is far better I’m sure, we’ll ive said my piece just thought I’d give back to the forum, thank you for reading!
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These boxes and the race chips ain't worth the hassle mate.
As you stated and it's common knowledge, a stage 1 map from a reputable tuner is worth its weight in gold.
I had mine done last year and it's been spot on.
I also have a pedal box in mine and it performs superbly.
With its torque and economy.........Fae exceeds my expectations.
So for me, it's a remap ftw
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I think you all know how I feel about performance upgrades. Be it remaps or boxes.
Simple examples -
a. The Vectra 1.9 CDTi - out of the two variants (120bhp or 150bhp), which has the most problems. 100% the 150. I owned both and used these engines to develop tuning boxes way back when. My conscience got the better of me and pulled out of both companies
b. The Insignia 2.0 CDTi - out of the the two variants (140bhp or 160bhp), which has the more problems? I suspect the 160. Hence why I run a 140.
Manufacturers know the limits of their parts, that's why they plough millions into development, and why they are clubbing together to now develop platforms. Then suddenly a tuning company comes along to tell you that manufacturers don't know what they're doing and say, 'plug this into your fuel rail, I dare ya! Oh, but don't ever tell the vehicles manufacturer!'
'There's no replacement for displacement.'
EDIT: Having said that I have broke my own rule and run a Merc E250CDI which is a tuned version of the 2.1 diesel that you find in the 220CDi. Doh!2015 SRi Nav CDTi 140 VX-line Nav
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there are some videos on youtube about tuning boxes,they may give you a slight rise in power and torque figures,but in reality ,theyre no where near the figures quoted from the likes of dtuk….only good for the bin imo2015 Sri vx line nav BiTurbo . Sri heated leather.5500k AFL . Vx line 20s,8inch LCD dash .FLEXride.Reverse cam.Irmscher grill.235hp and 480 torqs.30mm lowering springs.20mm H&R spacers all round. Mtec drilled discs on rear,VXR 355mm drilled on front,with Brembo 4 pot calipers. Auto wipers .VX puddle lights.Carbon effect black roof wrap.Irmscher roof spoiler.Irmscher side skirts.
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My view of these pretty much mirrors above, utter garbage device's, a remap is more reliable with the view that it's tailored to that specific car, having said that still comes with risks as pointed out above.
If you want a fast car buy a fast is my view, saves you money in the long run, if you just want your car to be faster than the guy next to you with the same car learn to drive instead of self detonating your engine
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Chip tuning clogs dpf, nothing else to it, been there done that. I read a really interesting article by a German engineer talking about chips. They are configured for a model of car, no matter the age mileage or any other factors involved, where as a real tuner should check the limitations of your car first and work from that to achieve the tune that is right for your car. Chips also tend to go full beans no matter where you are in the rev range, where as a reputable tuner should set things to come in when they need to, to avoid over fueling etc at all times2011 2.0 cdti ecoflex excnav
honeycomb grill, squinty eyes, custom lettering, honeycomb custom fog grills, custom lower centre grill, full black back tints, chrome door knobs, rear wiper removed, custom back badge, custom DRLs, custom diffuser, custom wing, stage 1 remap, pipercross air kit, 210bhp 440nm torque, more on the way
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Originally posted by Jakxta View PostChip tuning clogs dpf, nothing else to it, been there done that. I read a really interesting article by a German engineer talking about chips. They are configured for a model of car, no matter the age mileage or any other factors involved, where as a real tuner should check the limitations of your car first and work from that to achieve the tune that is right for your car. Chips also tend to go full beans no matter where you are in the rev range, where as a reputable tuner should set things to come in when they need to, to avoid over fueling etc at all times
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So I have to ask how is the insignia bi turbo 2.0 CDTI in terms of reliability? I would like to get my hands on one, do they do a sports tourer variant? Yes I agree with all above statements, lesson learned
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Originally posted by MikeSignia View PostSo I have to ask how is the insignia bi turbo 2.0 CDTI in terms of reliability?
2015 Sri vx line nav BiTurbo . Sri heated leather.5500k AFL . Vx line 20s,8inch LCD dash .FLEXride.Reverse cam.Irmscher grill.235hp and 480 torqs.30mm lowering springs.20mm H&R spacers all round. Mtec drilled discs on rear,VXR 355mm drilled on front,with Brembo 4 pot calipers. Auto wipers .VX puddle lights.Carbon effect black roof wrap.Irmscher roof spoiler.Irmscher side skirts.
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Originally posted by MikeSignia View PostHello all I thought I should offer my experience in using a tuning box as they come up in conversation a lot and people should get any info they can on them. So, I have a 2010 insignia sports tourer 2.0 ECOflex 160, I got myself a DTUK Crd2+ tuning box which gave me about 200 to 210 hp as well as 460nm of torque so ya loads of fun! And also an up to 20% fuel economy increase so good all around, I loved it so much and I was running it for about a month. Then the trouble started, I started getting a service vehicle soon message on start up and my dpf regenerations became more frequent and my god did it stink more then usual!, This was happening about every 100 or so miles, so the inevitable happened and I do take a few long trips a week to blow all the crud out, my car went into limp mode and the dpf blocked, took to a dealer and they unclogged it, I then took my tuning box off and I’m away again happy with the car stock, apart from my air filter I had my car a long while before this and had no problems, I am also getting no problems now without a tuning box again. So I suppose what I’m trying to say is this is my experience with them, I know other people get along fine with them I’m sure, but is it worth the risk? A fine tuned remap rolling road and all is far better I’m sure, we’ll ive said my piece just thought I’d give back to the forum, thank you for reading!
So can NOT believe to any of above statement regardless the fact that I`m for tuning (DPF and EGR off) any diesel car.
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I know it will give high mpg on BC, however it is one more reason people should not to believe to any of your statement... it is totally misleading... except for the part that DPF will get chock more often with tuning box.
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