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  • #46
    Unfortunately we can’t all afford the GS even though I wish I could the petrol version of them will be more refined but is the previous

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    • #47
      Originally posted by marko301 View Post
      You farmers don't half make me laugh with your tractors....Er I mean diesels.

      The answer is simple. If you can afford the running costs get a petrol. It's more refined and more reliable. Keep it serviced and you can fill up and forget about it...No regens...No DPF blocking...No EGR failing and you don't look like the great pretender sat at the traffic lights in a nice car but a bag of spanners rattling under the bonnet.

      In all seriousness....If you're doing 20k a year you could get away with either. The extra cost of running a petrol would probably equal the extra maintenance/repair costs of a diesel.




      *Waits for the backlash from farmer Giles and his friends*
      Even though I have a tractor under a nice body ... I totally agree! I’m definitely swapping mine for the 2.0t ASAP!

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      • #48
        And even though I can’t quite afford the posh ones I will still go for the mk1 2.0t [emoji16]

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        • #49
          If you enjoy revving the crap out of your engine then the petrol is the one to go for if you could afford the fuel bill.
          If you enjoy changing gears early and reached optimum speed to gear, then diesel for you.

          I always believe in for everyday driving diesel its the way forward as you reach optimum power in the usual rev range and you getting good economy at same time. And they are lovely motorway cruisers.

          It does make me laugh when i see big boys like focus st, scooby etc, doing 60mph on the inside lane of motorway, and get over taken by regular car. So in the real world who is faster getting to their destination .

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          • #50
            Originally posted by sriray View Post
            If you enjoy revving the crap out of your engine then the petrol is the one to go for if you could afford the fuel bill.
            If you enjoy changing gears early and reached optimum speed to gear, then diesel for you.

            I always believe in for everyday driving diesel its the way forward as you reach optimum power in the usual rev range and you getting good economy at same time. And they are lovely motorway cruisers.

            It does make me laugh when i see big boys like focus st, scooby etc, doing 60mph on the inside lane of motorway, and get over taken by regular car. So in the real world who is faster getting to their destination .
            You poor misguided fella.

            Gear change on a petrol is when it's supposed to be changed. That's why petrol owners go through less clutches. A diesel engine might let you get away with lazy gear changes but you forget all the stress you're putting other components under because you're misusing the torque.

            A good try but you just failed miserably.

            Have you ever thought Scooby's et al are taking it steady so as to give diesel drivers the chance to look at a car with a proper engine in it.
            2017 Vauxhall Insignia Grand Sport Sri Nav 1.5 (165ps) Turbo petrol in Lava Red - Keyless entry and start - 18” five spoke alloy wheels - Front fog lights - Tinted rear windows - Aluminium sports pedals - Ambient interior led lighting - Front and rear parking assist - Active emergency braking - Forward collision assist - Front pedestrian alert - Traffic sign recognition - Lane keep assist - Cruise control - Speed warning and limiter - Voice recognition - Bluetooth - Duel zone climate control - Front and rear electric windows - High beam assist - Auto lights - Auto wipers - Wifi hotspot - 8” colour touchscreen Navi 900 with Android Auto, Apple Car Play and DAB

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            • #51
              Originally posted by marko301 View Post
              You poor misguided fella.

              Gear change on a petrol is when it's supposed to be changed. That's why petrol owners go through less clutches. A diesel engine might let you get away with lazy gear changes but you forget all the stress you're putting other components under because you're misusing the torque.

              A good try but you just failed miserably.

              Have you ever thought Scooby's et al are taking it steady so as to give diesel drivers the chance to look at a car with a proper engine in it.
              Optimum power on petrol is near the top end.

              The scooby driver can't afford the go fast bill so inside lane.

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              • #52
                Originally posted by Flick19191 View Post
                Unfortunately we can’t all afford the GS even though I wish I could the petrol version of them will be more refined but is the previous
                My previous Insignia was the Insignia A 1.8 petrol. Came in for some bad stick from some people for being gutless. It was far from. The usual contenders had never even driven one. Anyway. It was smooth and quiet even at speed. I'm not saying get a 1.8 but there should be a fair few 2l petrols around in the Insignia A. I don't think you'd be breaking the bank to find one.



                Originally posted by sriray View Post
                Optimum power on petrol is near the top end.

                The scooby driver can't afford the go fast bill so inside lane.
                Anyway....You're a petrol driver. Stop letting a bad map cloud your judgement.
                2017 Vauxhall Insignia Grand Sport Sri Nav 1.5 (165ps) Turbo petrol in Lava Red - Keyless entry and start - 18” five spoke alloy wheels - Front fog lights - Tinted rear windows - Aluminium sports pedals - Ambient interior led lighting - Front and rear parking assist - Active emergency braking - Forward collision assist - Front pedestrian alert - Traffic sign recognition - Lane keep assist - Cruise control - Speed warning and limiter - Voice recognition - Bluetooth - Duel zone climate control - Front and rear electric windows - High beam assist - Auto lights - Auto wipers - Wifi hotspot - 8” colour touchscreen Navi 900 with Android Auto, Apple Car Play and DAB

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by sriray View Post
                  If you enjoy revving the crap out of your engine then the petrol is the one to go for if you could afford the fuel bill. If you enjoy changing gears early and reached optimum speed to gear, then diesel for you..
                  The 2ltr SIDI Turbo has peak power between 2000-4000 rpm so you can cruise nicely without revving the crap out the engine. And is a very torquey engine. As I've said before you can be tootling round in 3rd gear at 20mph and if so desired be in excess of the motorway speed limit easily without changing gear . the only good thing about diesel is economy
                  Insignia Elite Nav 2ltr SIDI Turbo 250PS, Pearlescent Emerald Green, VX-Line Interior, VX-Line Exterior Styling Kit, Premium Brandy Nappa Sports Leather, 20" Elite Multi Spoke Alloy Wheels, 8" Digital Drivers Display, Bose Premium Audio System, Front Camera Pack, Rear View Camera, Adaptive Cruise Control, Advanced Park Assist, Rear Privacy Glass, Keyless Entry & Start, Tyre Pressure Monitoring System, Factory Fitted Towbar

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                  • #54
                    I had a 1.8 petrol and to be fair I thought it was useless had no poke too big car for little engine

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                    • #55
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                      ​2015 Sri vx line nav BiTurbo . Sri heated leather.5500k AFL . Vx line 20s,8inch LCD dash .FLEXride.Reverse cam.Irmscher grill.235hp and 480 torqs.30mm lowering springs.20mm H&R spacers all round. Mtec drilled discs on rear,VXR 355mm drilled on front,with Brembo 4 pot calipers. Auto wipers .VX puddle lights.Carbon effect black roof wrap.Irmscher roof spoiler.Irmscher side skirts.

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by marko301 View Post
                        Anyway....You're a petrol driver. Stop letting a bad map cloud your judgement.
                        It's not the map, something wrong with the car it's slow revving, thought the remap could find the fault but still there. So I been living with it since I brought it 5 years ago. I'm going to get it booked in at my local vx specialist soon see if they could find the cause.
                        As for the other petrol we have, the fn2 civic type r, I find that's slow too until its in the vtec zone 5000rpm+

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                        • #57
                          18 are ok when you know how to drive.

                          The only issue I had was if you pulled away from stand still in first...Say, taking a gap...the rev limiter sometimes kicked in. Dangerous that. But other than that. It would overtake fine. You just needed to drop a gear as you're supposed to do.
                          2017 Vauxhall Insignia Grand Sport Sri Nav 1.5 (165ps) Turbo petrol in Lava Red - Keyless entry and start - 18” five spoke alloy wheels - Front fog lights - Tinted rear windows - Aluminium sports pedals - Ambient interior led lighting - Front and rear parking assist - Active emergency braking - Forward collision assist - Front pedestrian alert - Traffic sign recognition - Lane keep assist - Cruise control - Speed warning and limiter - Voice recognition - Bluetooth - Duel zone climate control - Front and rear electric windows - High beam assist - Auto lights - Auto wipers - Wifi hotspot - 8” colour touchscreen Navi 900 with Android Auto, Apple Car Play and DAB

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                          • #58
                            In my opinion they terrible only had it 6 weeks plus I couldn’t map it that’s why I went diesel simply so I could map it

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by Flick19191 View Post
                              In my opinion they terrible only had it 6 weeks plus I couldn’t map it that’s why I went diesel simply so I could map it
                              Naturally Aspirated are no good for mapping you only gain max 10bhp at best .

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by marko301 View Post
                                You poor misguided fella.

                                Gear change on a petrol is when it's supposed to be changed. That's why petrol owners go through less clutches. A diesel engine might let you get away with lazy gear changes but you forget all the stress you're putting other components under because you're misusing the torque.

                                A good try but you just failed miserably.

                                Have you ever thought Scooby's et al are taking it steady so as to give diesel drivers the chance to look at a car with a proper engine in it.
                                Here here! Finally someone with a bit of sense

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